A full transcript of the interview was published on the Nuclear Threat Initiative's website, where Nunn is co-founder, co-chair, and strategic advisor.

An excerpt:

“(Sanctions) would have to be very damaging to Russia to be meaningful,” he said. “It would seem to me that [NATO nations] should make the sanctions contingent, because if you go ahead and put sanctions on before an invasion, how does that deter an invasion?”